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Author: | Tiger [ Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:57 am ] |
Post subject: | MAN DEKO'2004 |
Wargaming.net announces subscription to M.A.N.Double Elimination Knockout Tournament. Entry to the tournament closes at 5:30pm GMT on November 16th and is available for registered players. We invite everyone to participate in the upcoming competition! Prizes: Winner: 3 months Runner-up: 2 months Losing Semi-finalist: 1 month Consolation Knockout Winner: 1 month Swiss Winner: 1 month Subscription is possible here. Good luck! |
Author: | MortonHQ [ Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:20 am ] |
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Count me in! |
Author: | Donut [ Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:34 am ] |
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Swiss winner? |
Author: | Tiger [ Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:53 am ] |
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MortonHQ wrote: Count me in!
Please, subscribe on the MAN site. |
Author: | MortonHQ [ Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:12 am ] |
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Ah! So here is not really here, its here. Gotcha! |
Author: | Guest [ Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:41 am ] |
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Donut wrote: Swiss winner?
There are two consolation events (the second of which is a swiss) (This is mwigor) |
Author: | mwigor [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Seedings |
Seed Player 1 Rocklizard 2 Pitor 3 Tiger 4 Redfox 5 Gleb 6 Silicor 7 ChrisCraven 8 Norat 9 MortonHQ 10 mwigor 11 Artanis 12 Manko 13 melkiot 14 GuerrillaZ 15 Tywer 16 Roth 17 Antonio Manero 18 CrimeGorilla 19 maelstrom 20 red.eyes 21 Enforcer 22 Wanderer 23 azzzy 24 NikTheKid 25 nblawat 26 MadJazz 27 Chikitos 28 Giuko 29 cis 30 G.F. 31 JOCAMP 32 EL DIABLO 33 Deda 34 guderian27 35 B.Kloppt 36 Deac 37 Duque 38 Donut 39 Wau 40 Glyc 41 tomhahnl 42 Welnic 43 Brooke 44 eisbaer 45 ROSS 46 Jack3lombre 47 Brett Shaw 48 nerithІ 49 Alagash 50 Crashdummie 51 Beerthirty 52 lidstrom777 53 Pinkasso 54 K-Man 55 Arkon7 56 adiabatic 57 Cobra 58 FuNoMo 59 Nharkor 60 Nakun 61 Ch1pm0nk 62 Mopsoo 63 Keule 64 ron2 65 Ice man 67 66 twestedbutfun2 67 wizo59mt 68 EasyE 69 Yohei 70 skomo 71 Magician 72 Frogurt 73 General Rojo 74 lokiean 75 Moctobot 76 ManOwaR 77 quercus 78 Pavell 79 lazyashell 80 RayMan 81 gwildu 82 Drunsul |
Author: | mwigor [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:43 pm ] |
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Details on draw to follow - the top 14 receive a bye into round 2. |
Author: | Artanis [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:37 pm ] |
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Woot, a bye! |
Author: | mwigor [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Draw details |
Here are details on the draw for the main tournament. If you have any questions let me know! It is imperative that you keep in contact with your opponent each round and arrange mutually convenient times to play multiple turns - otherwise this tournament will take a year to complete. If you consistently take longer than about 24 hours to play turns you can be ejected from the tournament. Good luck to all. Cheers, MW. DEKO Draw There are 82 entrants. After any match the winner assumes the higher seeding, and the loser assumes the lower seeding. Round 1 will reduce the field to 32 undefeated players. And 32 once defeated players. The top 14 seeds will be given a bye into Round 2 as undefeated players. The remainder will play in 3-way or 4-way matches as follows. 3-way Matches 15 v 50 v 79 16 v 49 v 80 17 v 48 v 81 18 v 47 v 82 4-way Matches 19 v 46 v 51 v 78 26 v 39 v 58 v 71 20 v 45 v 52 v 77 27 v 38 v 59 v 70 21 v 44 v 53 v 76 28 v 37 v 60 v 69 22 v 43 v 54 v 75 29 v 36 v 61 v 68 23 v 42 v 55 v 74 30 v 35 v 62 v 67 24 v 41 v 56 v 73 31 v 34 v 63 v 66 25 v 40 v 57 v 72 32 v 33 v 64 v 65 In the 3-way matches, players will play a “match” (one battle as PL and one as FNU) against each of the other players on the planet Antarcticus. The winner of the match will be the player who wins both of these “matches” on the least turns rule. Where all 3 players win one match each, the tie break(s) will be: i) Number of battles won ii) Total turns across all battles iii) Net units destroyed across all battles iv) Surviving units across all battles v) Lot The winner of the 3-way match enters round two as an undefeated player. The 2nd placed player joins round two as a once defeated player. The 3rd placed player drops into the consolation knockout. The 4-way matches will be played as two rounds. In round 1a the top player (on seeding) in the 4-way match plays the bottom player and the middle two play each other all battles on Butterfly. In round 1b battles are on Brimstone, the winners of the round 1a matches play each other (winner to undefeated pool, loser to once defeated pool) and the losers play (winner to once defeated pool, loser to consolation knockout). In future rounds players in the undefeated pool play each other with losers dropping into the once-defeated pool. Players in the once-defeated pool play each other with losers dropping into the consolation events. Players cannot play each other a second time before the semi-final stage. Round 2 Undefeated pool: 32 players, Once-defeated pool: 32 players Battles on Bizarria Round 3 Undefeated pool: 16 players, Once-defeated pool: 32 players Battles on Emerald Round 4 Undefeated pool: 8 players, Once-defeated pool: 24 players Battles on Crateus Round 5 Undefeated pool: 4 players, Once-defeated pool 16 players Battles on Noble Rust Round 6 Undefeated pool: 2 players, Once-defeated pool 10 players Battles on Anubis The one player who remains undefeated receives a bye into the semi-final. Quarter-Final The 6 once-defeated players play battles on New Paradise Semi-Final The undefeated player chooses his opponent and has the right to reject one starting layout (before making his opening declaration). If he does not use this right in the semi-final then it will carry on to the Final. Battles will be on Wasserland. Final Battles will be on Twin Islands. |
Author: | mwigor [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Battle list |
Round 1 (Antarcticus) Tywer Crashdummie Roth Alagash Antonio Manero nerithІ CrimeGorilla Brett Shaw Tywer lazyashell Roth RayMan Antonio Manero gwildu CrimeGorilla Drunsul Crashdummie Tywer Alagash Roth nerithІ Antonio Manero Brett Shaw CrimeGorilla lazyashell Tywer RayMan Roth gwildu Antonio Manero Drunsul CrimeGorilla Crashdummie lazyashell Alagash RayMan nerithІ gwildu Brett Shaw Drunsul lazyashell Crashdummie RayMan Alagash gwildu nerithІ Drunsul Brett Shaw Round 1a (Butterfly) maelstrom Pavell red.eyes quercus Enforcer ManOwaR Wanderer Moctobot azzzy lokiean NikTheKid General Rojo nblawat Frogurt MadJazz Magician Chikitos skomo Giuko Yohei cis EasyE G.F. wizo59mt JOCAMP twestedbutfun2 EL DIABLO Ice man 67 Deda ron2 guderian27 Keule B.Kloppt Mopsoo Deac Ch1pm0nk Duque Nakun Donut Nharkor Wau FuNoMo Glyc Cobra tomhahnl adiabatic Welnic Arkon7 Brooke K-Man eisbaer Pinkasso ROSS lidstrom777 Jack3lombre Beerthirty Pavell maelstrom quercus red.eyes ManOwaR Enforcer Moctobot Wanderer lokiean azzzy General Rojo NikTheKid Frogurt nblawat Magician MadJazz skomo Chikitos Yohei Giuko EasyE cis wizo59mt G.F. twestedbutfun2 JOCAMP Ice man 67 EL DIABLO ron2 Deda Keule guderian27 Mopsoo B.Kloppt Ch1pm0nk Deac Nakun Duque Nharkor Donut FuNoMo Wau Cobra Glyc adiabatic tomhahnl Arkon7 Welnic K-Man Brooke Pinkasso eisbaer lidstrom777 ROSS Beerthirty Jack3lombre |
Author: | mwigor [ Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:11 pm ] |
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Please surrender if it becomes clear you are going to lose both battles in the match or if you are going to lose one battle in far fewer turns than you are going to win the other battle. It is hoped that Round 1a matches will be completed within 2 weeks. |
Author: | Enforcer [ Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:07 am ] |
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in the rules it says a max of 7 days per turn is allowed but you are expected to take 2 days per turn on average, but above u ahve said 24hours per turn max. What's going on?? |
Author: | mwigor [ Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:40 am ] |
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Enforcer wrote: in the rules it says a max of 7 days per turn is allowed but you are expected to take 2 days per turn on average, but above u ahve said 24hours per turn max. What's going on??
The limit is still 7 days - if you go away for a period or can't play for some other reason - let your opponent know and no-one should have a problem. Try and arrange a mutually convenient time with your opponent to play turns - so that you are both on-line at once and can play several turns. The warning is there for people who consistently take a long period of time to play their turns. Playing once every three days for example leads to games lasting over a month even on small maps. |
Author: | Enforcer [ Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:05 am ] |
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is every 2 days ok then? as not sure i can do every day. |
Author: | mwigor [ Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:05 pm ] |
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The objective is to arrange a convenient time to play several turns the average time per turn should be around 24 hours - but this can be made up of 3 turns one day and then none for 3 days. |
Author: | Nharkor [ Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:39 am ] |
Post subject: | deko rules |
Hi!!, I'm Spanish so I don't understand well some explanations about the tournament. 1) What "give a bye" or "receive a bye" means? I assume that this means to say good bye to the player so that player is out of the tournament. 2) Why players in round 1 play more matches than players in round 1a? Is the initial seed based on rank or score of the players? For example, I play two matches but in round 1 people play 4 matches. Why? 3) What are the numbers in "3-way Matches" and "4-way Matches"? the seed numbers? Then none player will be eliminated after round 1? Let's consider my case: I have a seed of 59 and I play against Donut that have 38. So what happens If I win and what if I lose? I hope you understand my english!! My best regards. Nharkor. |
Author: | Artanis [ Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: deko rules |
Nharkor wrote: Hi!!, I'm Spanish so I don't understand well some explanations about the tournament.
1) What "give a bye" or "receive a bye" means? I assume that this means to say good bye to the player so that player is out of the tournament. I can answer this one: a player who gets a "bye" goes to the next round for free without playing anybody. |
Author: | Maelstrom [ Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: deko rules |
Nharkor wrote: 2) Why players in round 1 play more matches than players in round 1a? Is the initial seed based on rank or score of the players? For example, I play two matches but in round 1 people play 4 matches. Why? Round 1 players are playing 3 way battles, while Round 1a players are playing in a pool of 4 players. With 4, is better to have two 1v1 games, and the winners of those playing in round 1b to determine who goes on. So Round 1a players will still have 4 matches, they play 2 now and 2 again (in round 1b) when the results of Round 1a are concluded. Nharkor wrote: 3) What are the numbers in "3-way Matches" and "4-way Matches"? the seed numbers? Correct Nharkor wrote: Then none player will be eliminated after round 1?
Let's consider my case: I have a seed of 59 and I play against Donut that have 38. So what happens If I win and what if I lose? Players will be eliminated in these games. For the 3-ways, the player that wins the most is considered undefeated for later rounds. The player with the second most is considered to have one loss, with the last player considered to have two losses and thus out of the tourney. For the 4 ways, the player that wins both 1a and 1b will have no losses, a player that wins 1a but loses 1b will have 1 loss, the player that loses 1a but wins 1b will have 1 loss, and the player that loses both will be eliminated. The purpose of the 3 and 4-way games is to bring the number of undefeated and once-defeated players to a number that can fit into a standard DEKO tournament for later rounds. |
Author: | Norat [ Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: deko rules |
Nharkor wrote: 2) Why players in round 1 play more matches than players in round 1a? Is the initial seed based on rank or score of the players? For example, I play two matches but in round 1 people play 4 matches. Why? To pass to second round you (as 4-way matches player) must play round 1a (1 match -- 2 battles) and round 1b (another match -- 2 battles). So the first round for you is divided in two subrounds and the total are 4 battles. And 3-way matches players must play only round 1 but 2 matches (4 battles). The match is two battles with the same opponent but for different sides (one as PL and one as FNU). Nharkor wrote: 3) What are the numbers in "3-way Matches" and "4-way Matches"? the seed numbers? Yes, they are player's seed numbers. Nharkor wrote: Then none player will be eliminated after round 1? Incorrect! For 3-way match 2 best players pass to second round and the worst player is eliminated from main tournament and enters The Consolation Knockout (a parallel tournament for losers). For 4-way match 3 best players pass to second round and the worst player is eliminated and enters The Consolation Knockout. Nharkor wrote: Let's consider my case: I have a seed of 59 and I play against Donut that have 38. So what happens If I win and what if I lose?
Each player has 2 lives. If you lose both round 1a and round 1b (all 2 your lives), then you will be eliminated. Else you will pass to second round. If you win both round 1a and round 1b, you will be undefeated player (you will save your 2 lives). If you lose in one of rounds, you will be once-defeated player (one life remains). Note that to lose life, you need to lose a match, not a battle. |
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